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Hi everyone. Since I decided to stop working on a project for now, I figured that it was time to talk about an issue that happened over the past few days. Now, this will be interesting.

The other day with the House Ethics Committee, of course we know that the democrats are ripping Rep. Tom DeLay again yet there is no proof of wrongdoing. Now, what the democratic party wanted was a return to the old rules in the committee where if it was ruled 5-5, then an investigation would take place. Currently, 5-5 means that the investigation is over. In a move to try and accomodate the left, Rep. Dennis Hastert who is the house majority leader decided to ok the changing of the rules and go back to the rules that were in place before. A letter to Rep. Nancy Pelosi was sent. Denny Hastert's comments below are taken from the Rush Limbaugh Show.

HASTERT: They took issue with process. Well, I'm willing to step back. We had a long discussion about that. I think we need to move forward in the ethics process. I think that there are issues out there that need to be discussed. I think that there's a member, especially on our side, that needs to have the process move forward so he can clear his name. Right now we can't clear his name. The media wants to talk about ethics as long as the word is stalemate. That's all that is in the press today is the ethics stalemate.

Interestingly enough, the minority leader Nancy Pelosi decided to actually reject the rules that her party wanted in the first place. Nancy Pelosi's comments are also taken from the Rush Limbaugh Show.

PELOSI: What I'm hearing them say is they may want to return to the old rules. That's like taking two steps forward in terms of undermining the ethics process and one step back if they don't also change the staffing changes that they have made there. So we have heard nothing from them.

Am I reading this right??

Seeing this, here is my individual take on this situation. Personally, the democrats are doing nothing but whining and complaining because after being in power for 40 years, we took that away when we won the House back in 1992, which then led to Bush in 2000/2004 and then winning the Senate. It is about control of power. Any concessions that the republican party are never good enough. Also, any solution is never good enough for the democrats because they have to propose an idea which if its actualy good is surprising to many. Republicans have clearly dominated in the arena of ideas for many years. A perfect example not related to this is the privitization of social security. Back around 1997-1998, President Clinton proposed the exact same thing that President Bush is proposing now. Yet the media is ga-ga over Clinton yet hates Bush with a passion. Thats another issue...

Back to the Ethics committee...part of the reason that Nancy Pelosi rejected the return to the old rules is simple. Her aides have also violated ethics standards and have failed to file with the FEC for trips that were taken to places like Korea. Now the office is filing after the fact while DeLay had always taken care of his paperwork with the FEC and everything else before the fact. My idea is that Pelosi doesn't want to end up in a similar situation where DeLay is being grilled by the partisan media and also the partisan left. She will try to do anything to get out of a possible ethics investigation, and that is anything. Including going back on the party's wishes to change back to the original rules of the House Ethics Committee.

Needless to say, the democrats want total control of power, and will stop at nothing to gain all power. America is waking up to the partisan left however, and democrats have been losing ground a ton in recent years. It's documented. I think its a case where there just is the notion where no amount of power is ever good enough.

What the republican party needs to do is strengthen their rule. Personally, I don't like Bill Frist as a leadership figure. He needs to rule more with an iron fist, similar to what Hastert does. If we keep being easy, then we will have taken the position of the minority, which we had for more than 40 years. We do not need that again. Can anyone say Jimmy Carter as one of our worst presidents ever?

As for the arena of ideas, good luck to the democrats using strategy from many moons ago. Times have changed.

My prediction on DeLay...he will be cleared. I can't say the same for Pelosi as there will probably be an investigation at some point. It would be interesting to see how she would handle that notion.

House Rules: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042705/content/truth_detector.guest.html
Pelosi's answer: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042705/content/truth_detector_2.guest.html
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From:stupify_me
Date:April 28th, 2005 04:28 am (UTC)
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Good prediction nice read
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From:babyox4420
Date:April 28th, 2005 05:15 am (UTC)
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Thanks...its sad but true. It would definitely be nice to see Pelosi get nailed in an ethics investigation. That woman does not deserve any type of office.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 29th, 2005 12:06 am (UTC)
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....

and the republicans act the same damn way, so whats your point?
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From:babyox4420
Date:April 29th, 2005 02:11 am (UTC)
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What is your point? Are you mad because the rules that the libs wanted to go back to would catch up to the libs?

As for anonoymous commenters, I am sick of seeing you guys post without names or lj names. If you are going to comment on here, at least have the perrogative to at least state your lj name...unless youre scared.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 30th, 2005 01:02 pm (UTC)
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I'd post with my lj name but I was banned and my posts deleted because I used a swear word. Beleive me, I'm not afraid.

My point is that both parties are inheritly corrupt to some degree. It's almost pointless to go on about it unless its to an incredible excess, like the Bush administration.
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From:babyox4420
Date:April 30th, 2005 01:17 pm (UTC)
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Ah, are you johnboy?

I'm not saying that 1 party is not corrupt...trust me, both are to an extent and even where I live (Buffalo, NY), its like you dont want anyone from any party because both have done such a good job screwing up that we are in the situation we are now.

The point of the entry was to show the hypocrisy that the libs are using. They wanted a rule change to go back to what we were using in the house before. The republicans gave them the rule change. However now the libs dont want the rule change because it would probably cause an investigation among their own. It's like nothing is ever good enough for the libs. Do you see the point that is trying to be made here?
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 30th, 2005 02:58 pm (UTC)
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jonbreaks, yes.

Heh, I live in Buffalo too. Weird.

I see the point but like I said, this kind of stuff goes on so much it's almost pointless to talk about.
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From:babyox4420
Date:April 30th, 2005 05:04 pm (UTC)
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Last I remember youre in Getzville, only 10 mins from my place in Lockport.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 30th, 2005 07:39 pm (UTC)
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Yeah I got friends out in lockport.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 16th, 2005 02:41 am (UTC)
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whoa, entire posts getting deleted...
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From:babyox4420
Date:May 16th, 2005 03:14 am (UTC)
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Who is this and what do you mean about entire posts getting deleted?
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 16th, 2005 09:37 pm (UTC)
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There was a thread above this one on this LJ where I made some statements and the entire thread got deleted. Seems to happen whenever I make a good point.

-jonbreaks
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From:babyox4420
Date:May 16th, 2005 11:58 pm (UTC)
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Ahh I see
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